Talk:Steamonia

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Extracting monster gold and xp values

Because there is no listing for monsters in Steamonia (the signs next to ranches elsewhere), getting their individual gold and xp values is not trivial. It is only possible to see the totals for each formation after fighting them:

Noggin Crab (battle).png Smooker (battle).png Smooker (battle).png Spy (battle).png 18 Gold
130 Experience
Noggin Crab (battle).png Noggin Crab (battle).png Greenlight (battle).png Noggin Crab (battle).png 17 Gold
125 Experience
Greenlight (battle).png Smooker (battle).png Smooker (battle).png Spy (battle).png 19 Gold
135 Experience
Spy (battle).png Smooker (battle).png Noggin Crab (battle).png Spy (battle).png 17 Gold
131 Experience
Smooker (battle).png Noggin Crab (battle).png Spy (battle).png Greenlight (battle).png 18 Gold
132 Experience

So how do we figure individual values? By doing a Gauss-Jordan elimination to obtain a reduced row echelon form matrix. This is basic linear algebra.

Cr Sm Sp Gr Gld Exp
( 1 2 1 0 ¦ 18 130 )
3 0 0 1 ¦ 17 125
0 2 1 1 ¦ 19 135
1 1 2 0 ¦ 17 131
1 1 1 1 ¦ 18 132

Cr Sm Sp Gr Gld Exp
( 1 0 0 0 ¦ 4 30 )
0 1 0 0 ¦ 5 33
0 0 1 0 ¦ 4 34
0 0 0 1 ¦ 5 35
0 0 0 0 ¦ 0 0

Therefore,

  • Crab = 4 Gold, 30 Exp
  • Smooker = 5 Gold, 33 Exp
  • Spy = 4 Gold, 34 Exp
  • Greenlight = 5 Gold, 35 Exp

and this is the only possible solution. --Xhamon 07:56, 14 June 2014 (CDT)

PS: Sorry for the ugly matrices but <math></math> tags are disabled on this wiki.

Requirements to enter

Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.