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Xhamon: Created page with "==Extracting monster gold and xp values== Because there is no listing for monsters in Steamonia (the signs next to ranches elsewhere), getting their individual gold and xp values..."

2014-06-14T12:56:09Z

Created page with "==Extracting monster gold and xp values== Because there is no listing for monsters in Steamonia (the signs next to ranches elsewhere), getting their individual gold and xp values..."

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==Extracting monster gold and xp values==
Because there is no listing for monsters in Steamonia (the signs next to ranches elsewhere), getting their individual gold and xp values is not trivial. It is only possible to see the totals for each formation after fighting them:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
|[[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]] [[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Spy_(battle).png]]
|18 Gold<br />130 Experience
|-
|[[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]] [[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]] [[Image:Greenlight_(battle).png]] [[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]]
|17 Gold<br />125 Experience
|-
|[[Image:Greenlight_(battle).png]] [[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Spy_(battle).png]]
|19 Gold<br />135 Experience
|-
|[[Image:Spy_(battle).png]] [[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]] [[Image:Spy_(battle).png]]
|17 Gold<br />131 Experience
|-
|[[Image:Smooker_(battle).png]] [[Image:Noggin_Crab_(battle).png]] [[Image:Spy_(battle).png]] [[Image:Greenlight_(battle).png]]
|18 Gold<br />132 Experience
|}

So how do we figure individual values? By doing a Gauss-Jordan elimination to obtain a reduced row echelon form matrix. This is basic linear algebra.

<div style="display:inline-block; height=100%; vertical-align:middle;">
{|
|-
! !!Cr!!Sm!!Sp!!Gr!! !!Gld!!Exp
|-align=center
|rowspan=6|<span style="font-size:96px;">(</span>||1||2||1||0||¦||18||130||rowspan=5|<span style="font-size:96px;">)</span>
|-align=center
|3||0||0||1||¦||17||125
|-align=center
|0||2||1||1||¦||19||135
|-align=center
|1||1||2||0||¦||17||131
|-align=center
|1||1||1||1||¦||18||132
|}
</div>
<div style="display:inline-block; height=100%; vertical-align:middle;">
→
</div>
<div style="display:inline-block; height=100%; vertical-align:middle;">
{|
|-
! !!Cr!!Sm!!Sp!!Gr!! !!Gld!!Exp
|-align=center
|rowspan=5|<span style="font-size:96px;">(</span>||1||0||0||0||¦||4||30||rowspan=5|<span style="font-size:96px;">)</span>
|-align=center
|0||1||0||0||¦||5||33
|-align=center
|0||0||1||0||¦||4||34
|-align=center
|0||0||0||1||¦||5||35
|-align=center
|0||0||0||0||¦||0||0
|}
</div>
Therefore,
*Crab = 4 Gold, 30 Exp
*Smooker = 5 Gold, 33 Exp
*Spy = 4 Gold, 34 Exp
*Greenlight = 5 Gold, 35 Exp
and this is the only possible solution. --[[User:Xhamon|Xhamon]] 07:56, 14 June 2014 (CDT)

PS: Sorry for the ugly matrices but <math></math> tags are disabled on this wiki.

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 PS: Sorry for the ugly matrices but <math></math> tags are disabled on this wiki.
 == Requirements to enter ==
 Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.

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		+	Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.
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		+	== Requirements to enter ==

	Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.		Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.

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	PS: Sorry for the ugly matrices but <math></math> tags are disabled on this wiki.		PS: Sorry for the ugly matrices but <math></math> tags are disabled on this wiki.
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		+	== Requirements to Enter ==
		+
		+	Through a few tests, I was able to determine that the Magic Key given by Piatta's elder is a hidden requirement to enter Steamonia. As a result, characters who would otherwise have been unable to obtain the Dream Stone are similarly unable to enter Steamonia in a group.